James chats with Sandra who is an award-winning communications professional, writer, former public relations agency CEO, author, wife, aunt, and vegan on a mission to amplify the world’s changemakers. She co-hosts VEG Networking Canada, where plant-based and vegan companies connect and collaborate. Follow her at sandranomoto.com.
James Lott Jr.: So this show is called Extra Connections, right? And so I love finding guests who truly are the title of the show, because she is extra in the best ways, and she’s a connector. So when I first ran across her profile on LinkedIn, which is a great place, folks, by the way, it said this is, quote, book whisperer for authors with impact. When I saw that, I was like, I want to talk to her. And then she said “vegan hype woman.” I really want to talk to her. I did. I really got there. So this is her bio. I love her bio. So, I mean, she wrote this, not me. That’s what she wrote. I’m going to change to me reading it, of course. She is an award-winning communications professional writer, former public relations agency CEO, author, wife, aunt. I love the aunt thing. And vegan on a mission amplify the world’s change makers. So we’re going to talk to her about what she does and what she be doing. And SandraNomoto.com is the place to go. Sandra Nomoto, Sandra, how are you?
Sandra Nomoto: James Lott, Jr, I am great. Thank you. Thanks for having me here.
JLJ: It was my pleasure. Okay, so I want to start with the book whisperer for authors with impact. And I read that, I thought, that’s a great description. You don’t see that very often. And I work with a lot of people who are impacting life, so explain what that means for you. Book whisperer for authors with impact.
SN: Yeah, my business in the last five years has taken a few different twists and turns. And 2020, was when I started working with authors, I would say, later in the year, more than when the year started. And yeah, about three years later, I found myself working with authors, but my title that I was using at the time didn’t really reflect that, and so I just came up with book whisperer, and I’ve kind of been using it ever since, so it’s probably about two years now, and it and I do a couple different things. So I can ghostwrite books, I can edit books, and I can format books. I would say those are my three core services and you just can’t get that with one title. So, I had to come up with something. And so book whisperer is what I came up with. And then, if people are more intrigued, “Oh, okay, well, what does that mean? It’s obviously something to do with books.” Then they can ask us more questions, and we can get more into it.
JLJ: So, book whisperer, I like that, so it explains it. But so folks that, just for folks at home, don’t know this in the biz, there are ghostwriters. So can you explain what it is you do as a ghostwriter? If someone says, I need you to fill out a book, finish a book, or start it? Like, what is it that you do for folks who don’t know what that means?
SN: Yeah, for folks who are new to that term in general. I would say a ghostwriter is somebody who writes for somebody else, and that somebody else. So let’s say it’s a celebrity who’s got a book deal. They, they, you know, have they’re obligated to finish this book by a certain time, but they don’t have time to sit at a laptop and do it all on their own, so they may hire a ghostwriter to work with them and create that manuscript.
It’s a little bit different than a co-author, because a co-author will get the credit for that writing. A ghostwriter does not. So ghostwriter gets paid to work with the author to create the work, but they will not get that kind of author credit on the cover of the book.
And then how I like to work, so I’m not like the traditional ghostwriter. I like to work with people who want their voices preserved as much as possible. So these could be business founders or just people with a really unique speaking voice, and they don’t want to tell their story to somebody else and then have them basically write it in their own way. And so how I like to work is hopping with folks on Zoom and hitting record. And maybe I’ll interject with some questions here and there. But most of the time, I like to just listen and let people share their story. And then I go off and I clean up that recorded manuscript. And at the very end, when we’ve finished all our sessions, and the book is finished, I give that back to them, and then they decide what they want to do with it. So that’s personally how I prefer to work. It’s not like the traditional ghostwriter who, you know, will charge 20K all the way up to six figures, and then really actually write the book in their own style, versus what the author might sound like.
JLJ: So, for example, I call you up. I say, girl, I can’t finish writing this because…I have two chapters. I just can’t finish. I’m too busy. I can’t do two chapters. So, what would you need to know from me? First, you say, James, you have…do you have a title? Do you have the meat? Like, what is one of the first things you would ask me?
SN: Yeah, do you have time to sit and chat and speak out your book? That would be the main thing, because if they don’t have time to sit and finish what they’ve started, but they could set aside, let’s say, an hour a week. That’s usually what I recommend, because it’s enough time to get, you know, at least a couple 1000 words done. But it’s a small enough time that I’m not bugging them for the entire week, right? So let’s say Monday at noon. We’re going to sit for an hour. You’re going to tell as much as you can in that hour. And then I’ll go off between our sessions to create the written version of that session, basically.
JLJ: So and so, like you said, most times you stay quiet. So you’ll be like, “Okay, go.” And I would just talk. And I would talk in first person. It’s kind of like, oh, I guess it depends on the book, right?
SN: Yeah, most times it’s going to be first person.
JLJ: So I was walking down the street and I saw this penny, and the penny…and just, literally, you record all that on Zoom. And then you may ask questions, like clarification or something? Like, did you mean to say this, or like, that kind of thing?
SN: Exactly, yeah. And then when I start telling people, this is my process. They say, “Well, how do I know where, like, where to start, or what I’m going to say?” Well, yeah, well, we determine that with an outline. So yeah, it’s not going to be your set Table of Contents, but I like to come up with an outline first, so we kind of have a sense of where we are in the process. Yeah. And then once we start recording sessions, we have a sense of like, okay, we’ll need this many more sessions to actually get the book finished, based on what we covered in an hour. So yeah.
JLJ: I like that. That’s an amazing idea. Now, when you say impact, I have an idea. I know what that means. But like, again, for folks that they’re like, is it serious topics? Or just mean books that are positive and help them? What do you mean by that?
SN: Yeah, exactly what you started to say: people who want to have a positive impact on others. So that could be a business author that wants to share their expertise. It could be a memoir, somebody who wants to share their story and inspire people. It could be fiction, most likely not. But yeah, I mean, I’ve had a fiction author come to me and it was, yeah, it was a grand project. So I would say it’s going to be more on the nonfiction side. But so long as that author wants to impact people positively, those are the folks who I want to work with.
JLJ: Have you ever turned anybody away? Have you ever had a project where you were like, “That’s just not for me”?
SN: Well, there was an author who had written, or was close to finishing their book, but then they wanted a ghostwriter to change the whole style and make it sound like a classic American fiction book, like, I think it was Catcher in the Rye, or some sort of like classic book like that. And I’m just like, oh, not my jam. So I actually suggested to them, you know, you’ve written this whole book already. It’s in your voice, you know? But, fine. If you still want to change the style, use AI, you know? Give AI that sample, see what it can do. And if you’re happy with it, you can go and rewrite your whole book that way. And then I can work with you as your editor.
JLJ: Good girl, I like that.
SN: You like that.
JLJ: Run back around. I love that. I was gonna say, because you offer other services. So I guess you can say, “Well, you go do that, come back when you’re ready, and I’ll make it all look pretty.”
SN: Yeah, exactly.
JLJ: AI isn’t perfect either, folks, don’t get excited. It’s not there yet. They make mistakes too. It all makes mistakes too. I like that because you’re a one-stop shop in the pre-release process. Say that five times fast.
SN: Yeah, pretty much. Like, the only thing I don’t do is cover design, you know. Happily will outsource that to somebody else. And then, just recently, actually, I’ve started to offer podcast publicity services to authors, because I found I’m actually doing publicity for some other clients, but then for the authors that would, you know, I’d help them edit and format and we get it up online, and then goodbye. Good luck to you. And then I realized, why don’t I just help folks on that other end too? Because the marketing is almost half the work once you get the book up there. So that’s how I got in touch with you, actually. I found out you’ve got your podcast, and so now I’ve got you kind of on my list. Yeah, if others come to me and they want that post-launch support. So yeah.
JLJ: No, that’s good. I like that. So it’s all because once you write the book and nobody reads it, it’s on a shelf somewhere. You get out there and, you know, and podcasts, you know, podcasts are not just about the future. They’re the way now. Podcasts are in, I mean, they’re not going nowhere. They are here. Yeah, everybody has one, but it’s still, it’s a good, it’s a good place to go. Podcasts have impact. Some podcasts have real big impact. They do. They do with that. Now, for you, because you have your own interest, but you also market this stuff, let’s say, with the vegan lifestyle.
This is, this is totally like I just thought this question right now, as I’m talking to you. If someone’s writing a book about meat, could you do it?
SN: I mean, it could, but probably not. Because, again, is that under, you know my definition of impact, right? So probably not. There’s plenty of other folks you could go to for what you need for that book. But yeah, I’ve been blessed to work with several vegan authors now, just because they know I’m vegan and you know, you like to work with people with similar interests, right? It just makes sense.
JLJ: I bring it up tongue in cheekly, because I’ve turned down things too, actually. I’m like, because, because here’s the deal and here’s the question for you, because how do you keep your integrity versus making money? Because we’re all trying to make money, and we’re gig workers. You and I are gig workers at the core of it. Where we’re as good as our last gig. I mean, that’s kind of what we’re doing, you know, we’re doing. So for me, it hasn’t been that hard. But every couple of times I was like, oh, the money would be dope. I got to stick to who I am, because in the end I’ll feel better. How do you do that?
SN: Yeah, I mean, if you come to my site, you’ll see values are very important to me. That’s why I use the title book whisper for authors with impact. Yeah, I don’t know what else to say.
JLJ: Yeah, how do you keep your integrity in this business? Because you get, you can easily write for anybody, or you can do, I mean, I’m sure you do anything, but you’re saying I have a specific thing that I believe in. If you can make work happen from that, that’s good, but I’m saying that, how do you keep the other stuff out?
SN: And also, because I’m very specific on my website, in my socials, about who I want to work with, I think the folks who align with that are the folks who come to me, anyway. Yeah, again, there’s, there’s a million other ghostwriters and editors that you can work with. And so you’re probably not going to find my site if you’re typing in certain words, you’ll find that person who’s a better fit for you. So, yeah, I don’t find it that hard, honestly.
JLJ: Okay, good. Well, anyway, if somebody does find your son, to say, if somebody finds it, because you’re on the web, everybody else, they type it in and go, Oh, who’s this? She seems—I like her. I like her values. But I guess, you know, I don’t, I’m not vegan. I just always wonder what that, you know, what that would mean for you. They come to you and say, you know, consultation. You’re like…you know? But you said you found a way to do that. So you’re good, so you politely ask them probably to just kind of maybe find somebody else that’s more aligned with them.
SN: Probably, yeah. And I like to do that too. If I know I’m not a good fit for somebody, I’ve got a whole roster of other editors that I have referred people to, yeah. And the funny thing is, when I started in 2020, I very specifically on my landing page said vegan and spiritual authors, and I left it at that. I said, let’s see who comes to me. And just folks from outside of that sphere started coming to me. And so I thought, well, you know, why limit myself? And so again, that’s where that word impact comes in. You know, I don’t really care what genre you write in, so long as you have this specific intention of inspiring people or impacting them positively, that’s a great fit.
JLJ: Yeah. Now also, you said you co-host something in Canada, a networking, it’s a show? Or it’s a plant-based vegan company, connect and collaborate thing. So tell us about that.
SN: Yeah, so our group is called VEG Networking Canada. We are the only vegan networking group for professionals and business owners that exists in the country. It started about five years ago. I joined in 2021 and then about a few months later, one of the co-founders stepped down and asked me to step up as co-host. So it’s myself and my colleague, Justin Manning. Justin is more of—kind of the face of the podcast interviews that you’ll see on YouTube, but I do more of the back end stuff, so bringing in new members who are vegan. And then the folks who we interview on YouTube, they’re not necessarily vegan, so long as they work for or they run a plant-based company operating in Canada, or if it’s not operating Canada, they themselves are Canadian, so long as there’s that tie to Canada, yeah, that’s who we like to meet.
And just we pick their brain about how they started their businesses, where their businesses are going, kind of their tips on surviving and succeeding. Yeah. And then all of us in our group were about 40ish members all across the country. We’re all vegan. So yeah.
JLJ: So I guess vegetarian is adjacent to you guys, then. For that kind of thing you would you as long you’re running—it’s plant-based.
SN: Yeah. So not all of our guests are vegan. They might be somewhere on the plant-based spectrum, but the requirement to join our group is that everybody is vegan.
JLJ: Now explain, because I want—this is for my fans for this. What do you consider vegan? Being vegan. What is your philosophy on that? Of being vegan?
SN: Yeah, well, I mean, I follow the The Vegan Society‘s definition. They’re the ones who came up with this term in 1944, so it’s a lifestyle that aims to reduce consumption of animals as well as exploitation of animals in any way. And so I know that it’s not completely possible to be vegan, because when we step outside on the sidewalk, we’re probably killing some ants along the way. So it’s not possibly 100% vegan all the time, but the goal of it is intentionally not having it in your diet, or going to places like zoos and aquariums and circuses and things like that, where we know that animals are being used. So it’s not just a diet. A lot of people think it’s just a diet thing, but it is an entire lifestyle.
JLJ: And also, folks, when it comes to clothes.
SN: Absolutely, clothing.
JLJ: Yeah, I like that too. I know that also. Well, my twin sister, she’s vegan, so I understand.
SN: Oh, cool.
JLJ: She’s been there for, god, I guess now 10, 11, years like now she’s been vegan.
SN: Nice. I’m seven years in.
JLJ: Seven years, very good, okay. Some people are like—so I’ve gone to vegan restaurants with her. I always find something to eat. I’m fine. I find things out. I have to have meat every day, so I’m fine with it but my friends were like, “Why sell french fries on a menu at a vegan place?” I go, well, chances are they’re not being fried in animal oils or anything. But, yeah, potatoes are plants. I mean, it’s about like, some sense that’s saying for you to say to my fans out there, like it right in the public some of them, they don’t know what that means.
They hear the word vegan, and they assume it’s just one of them, like, but no, yeah, it’s potatoes are that, and yucca is that, but it’s also, what are they fried in? What is that made in? Beans are, but what what stock are they made in? Right? That’s a whole thing, isn’t it?
SN: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, yeah.
JLJ: And so what is your—do you do the faux meats and the faux thing? Do you like all that stuff too?
SN: Yeah, I try and limit it during the week because, yeah, you don’t want to be eating too much, too much processed stuff. But every now and then, like, I’ll make a Mexican dish and, like, you know, you want to throw in your vegan cheese shreds in there. Same thing with the meats. But generally, I try and cook more whole food, plant-based during the week, and then weekends are kind of where I’m like, I’m okay with junk food, whatever I’m craving. Let’s—yeah, I’ll eat vegan. So yeah. You gotta keep a nice balance.
JLJ: What made you go vegan seven years ago?
SN: So it was actually quite a long transition that took me 11 years. So I saw the documentary Earthlings at the end of 2007, and that’s sort of what kicked it off. So it took me a couple of years to remove meat from my diet. I started there, and then for a good chunk of time, I was still eating dairy, seafood, eggs. Was never a big fan of seafood or eggs, but yeah, again, kind of limited that to weekends, as I looked as I learned to cook during the week, more plant-based.
And then I said goodbye to seafood when my husband and I ate at Iron Chef Morimoto’s restaurant in New York City on our honeymoon. That was my last seafood meal. And then from there, it was just dairy. And I actually kicked dairy for health reasons, because I’ve always had these digestive symptoms that my health team was never able to get to the bottom of. And then, yeah, I finally went back to her and said, “You know, I need to get to the bottom of this.” I just had a really bad incident of acid reflux in the middle of the night. And she’s like, “Let’s try a food sensitivity test.” And I found out dairy was one of those things on the list. So yeah, once I did that cleanse, this was 2018, I came to the end of that, and I was like, yeah, I can do it without dairy. So that was it. That was kind of the date that I count from Spring 2018 and then once you do that. Buy it like everything else is so much easier, like clothing, beauty products, household products, yeah.
JLJ: So, yeah, I have some beauty products and stuff that are vegan. They’re not, you know, I have no animal testing, all that kind of stuff. I love it. And there’s a lot of really great, actually vegan food. I can try to tell people there’s great food out there. So great-tasting food I’ve had. LA, especially. I live in LA because there are a lot of vegan restaurants.
SN: Yeah, it’s so good there.
JLJ: Yeah. So, I mean, even in the valley, I was in the valley, I was like, Wow. I was like, all these great places here, and the food is really good. I mean, I just, I have no problem with it. I haven’t gone vegan myself, but I have no problem doing a Meatless Monday or you know, every little bit counts, I guess. That’s always the thing. Because I can feel the difference. I don’t want all that meat all the time either. I don’t want that all the time. So you must feel you must feel clearer, you must feel lighter. I mean, being vegan, so it’s probably, has it changed your kind of molecular structure?
SN: That’s a great question. I mean, I guess I can’t answer that for sure, but I’d like to think so, because you are what you eat, right? And we know that a lot of chronic diseases are caused by diet and lifestyle. Like there is no cholesterol in the plant world, right? You can only get that from meat. And so again, if you have a history of heart disease and that kind of thing, you want to try and avoid those foods. Yeah, in terms of, like, physical changes, like, I found the biggest change was when I first gave up meat, like, right off the bat, lost 10 pounds.
Of course, over the years, I’ve gained that back, hopefully in muscle I like to think. Yeah, that was the biggest difference. And then whenever I would go for a run or do some sort of workout, I find the recovery time is a lot faster than it used to be. So if I did a pretty heavy workout, like, I would take a couple days, usually, but I find two days or less, I’m good to go again. So I think those are the two biggest changes.
And then, interestingly, my one of my clients published a book this year called The Vegan Transformation, and it’s centered mostly around the mental, emotional, and spiritual benefits of going vegan. And I was one of the people that she interviewed. And, yeah, it’s amazing how a lot of people have reported, like, you know, they don’t really ascribe to any religion, but once they went vegan, they really felt like a sense of community, a sense of connection with the animals and the planet too. So, yeah, it’s super interesting. Like, I think it’ll affect people in different ways for sure.
JLJ: Yeah, I was wondering. So going back to your projects. So we talked about your spirituality, the veganism, your talent, obviously you’re doing all this stuff. Has there been a project that you can think of that has really impacted you working on it?
SN: Oh, can I talk about my own project?
JLJ: Yeah, it was probably, you. That’s fine. Yeah, that too, yeah.
SN: Yeah. I mean, because it’s true. So I came up with the idea for a vegan marketing book in 2021 and I was like, let’s see if somebody has done this. And not only had nobody written the book, published the book, there was only one book that existed called Vegan Ventures that was about how to run a vegan business. And I went, “That’s it?” What an underserved market. And then here we were. It’s a little bit different now, but certainly during the pandemic, like plant-based eating was just on the rise. Everybody was moving, at least trying, trying to move more towards the plant-based lifestyle. So, yeah.
So I said, well, I’ve got to be the first one to write this. So I started, yeah, emailing companies in the fall and saying, submit your story, submit your case study about what makes your company successful in terms of marketing and what tactics you’re using. And so I published that book in the fall of 2022, so it’s been three years, won a Vegan Choice Award a year later. And then the biggest thing that I didn’t expect, of course, I was hoping like, maybe I’ll get some clients out of this, hopefully, was that books are the fast track to getting speaking opportunities. Like, I have zero goals to become a speaker. Yes, I’ve been on plenty of podcasts, and of course, you have to do that to promote your book. But I did not expect the amount of people that would ask me to speak somewhere, and then people started offering to pay me.
So yeah, so last year, I did three big vegan events back to back. So Planted Expo here in Vancouver, Nanaimo Veg Fest, which is in our province, but on Vancouver Island a month later. And then in September, Vancouver Vegan Festival invited me to speak. So, yeah, I just kind of thought to myself, like this is a system, and for anybody who wants those paid speaking opportunities, your fast track to getting those is publishing a book.
So you really got to think of—and I’ve been trying to position myself this year too, to more speakers, because I don’t feel like enough people are talking about this. It’s like a secret that only I’m trying to shout out there. So, yeah. So I discovered that just through my own journey and process, and I’m trying to work more with clients who want that opportunity too. Publish your book, have it in book form, and then it’ll get you the chance to speak on stages.
JLJ: I agree with you, and I just have books and stuff, but I was always taught by somebody, product, product, product. You have a product. And that includes books. You have a product, you’ll get out there. And I think it’s as well as—I’m not saying it’s easy, but it’s just it’s one of those low hanging fruits that are really good, if you can get a good book out there with a point of view that’s almost broad enough to be a place for that niche, but also specific enough that it’s you, the world is yours.
It totally opens up. And I just, I just think that’s, that’s great advice, folks. So take that advice, folks. She’s telling you it’s true, but I think that a lot of people just think it’s just so hard. Oh my god. Me, write? Other people write books. I think people really do think it’s other people and other things. And you’re saying it can be anybody, or you can hire her?
SN: Yup.
JLJ: Write it. See, I brought that back around to assist you in that process. And I think that’s great. I love Vancouver. I’ve been to Vancouver several times.
SN: Oh, cool.
JLJ: Vancouver, Richmond, Granville, what is the scene there like?
SN: Yeah, it’s pretty robust here. We’ve unfortunately had, you know, our number of vegan restaurants that have closed in the last few years, but that’s with any kind of industry, right? But yeah, I would say we’ve got a good number of vegans here. So whether you’re an activist, there’s folks you can connect to, there’s vegan meetups, and then yeah, and it’s pretty vegan-friendly. Like most restaurants that cater to omnivores, they will have options for vegans as well. So yeah, I would say it’s pretty good here.
JLJ: Because I know, I know here in LA, the first thing was all the gluten-free stuff, a lot of people have celiac disease and stuff. So I see a lot of restaurants now are doing the gluten-free brands, and now that kind of stuff. I’m seeing more and more. First there was vegetarian as the option, but you always question, how do you still cut the knife with the—you always kind of question the background.
So I’m glad to see that there’s actually been a movement to be really cautious about preparing vegan meals in non-vegan restaurants, or just to be careful. I’m glad that’s happening more now.
SN: Cool.
JLJ: I’ve seen that. Because I know my sister’s like, “Oh no, they cut the cheese with that.” And the vegan cheese over here, and the real…I know it’s kind of weird, but I know in LA, they’ve made a big conscious effort. But is there a big movement in Canada? Because I know in parts of the states, it’s a big movement. But is there a big movement in Canada about veganism?
SN: Yeah, I would say it’s probably going to be more obvious in the major cities, and then Toronto, I would say, is probably a little bit more active than we are on the activist side, but they’ve got a bigger population too. But I mean that being said, like we I’ve just brought in some members, some vegan members, on the Atlantic coast of Canada, and I just had no idea whether, I mean, I knew there were vegans out there because there’s Facebook groups, but yeah, folks have found…
JLJ: Like Nova Scotia? Or…
SN: Yeah. We have one who just joined from Nova Scotia, and one on Prince Edward Island. So yeah.
JLJ: Very good.
SN: Finally reaching that coast. Took us five years, but…
JLJ: Canada is as long as America. It’s long. I’ve been to Vancouver and I’ve been to Montreal, so I’ve been to the two ends.
SN: Yeah, same.
JLJ: So it’s been two ends. But Canada’s long. It’s a long…but it’s also high too. It’s a lot. It’s far up too. That’s very cool. Um, so if people want to hire you, or want a consultation or want to talk to you, what is the best way for them to even reach you?
SN: I mean, if you’ve got a quick question, I’m pretty active on social media, so yeah, feel free to slide into my DMs. I’ve got a couple different forms on my website depending on whether you’re a business or you’re an author, so you can fill out the right one, depending on what’s right for you. And literally, today, I just installed a chatbot, so that should make it a little easier, again. If you’ve got a quick question and you arrive on my site, try out my chatbot. And yeah, from what I’ve seen, it takes about a minute for the message to get me on the app, so it’s not instantaneous as social media, but you can give that a try too. I just installed it today.
JLJ: She’ll get her. Just wait a minute, it’ll get there. Sandra Nomoto is the dot com. And it’s S A, N, D, R, A, O, N, O, M, A, oh my god, all these Os. It’s S, A, N, D, R, A, N, O, M, O, T, O. That’s what I was trying to get to, dot com.
SN: That’s right.
JLJ: It’ll be in the description of course, you can find it. And find her. She’s on LinkedIn. Also you can look at her, Sandra Nomoto on there too. That’s where I found her. I like LinkedIn. I make a lot of connections on there. I do. I’ve been more active on there the last couple of years. And like anything, you see results when you’re active, like you said, we see that we met each other. Now we know each other’s orbits. And yes, send your folks to me. Anybody wants to—I’ll talk about it. I love it. I want to connect with everyone in the world. So thanks for being on the show.
SN: Thank you. This was a real treat, James.
JLJ: Thank you so much. Follow her, folks. Follow her. Do it. Please. Put underneath you can talk to her. It’s all about connections, folks, and we need to connect, whether it’s Canada to America or from West Coast to East Coast or wherever all over the world. I’m all about connection, and I just think it makes the world go round. No person is an island. We really are. We’re all a giant village. That’s what this show is all about.
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